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Three storytellers share their true personal story on the theme “Out of my Shell”. Their stories were recorded in-person in front of a live audience July 16, 2023 at Bonner Park Bandshell. The storytellers you’ll hear in this episode are all educators enrolled in The University of Montana’s Creative Pulse program. The Creative Pulse embraces critical thinking processes and habits of the mind, enabling our students to develop, refine and integrate these processes into their own thinking and learning abilities, as well as those of their students. The Master of Arts in Integrated Arts and Education is completed over two consecutive summer sessions plus independent studies and a final project.

Transcript : Creative Pulse - Out of My Shell Part 2

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[00:01:17] Charlene Brett: the thunder starts rolling and it’s echoing off all of these walls back and forth. My dogs are getting terrified. They’re like, can we go in the tent? Please? We’re scared. Please let us in. So we all, we bail into the tent because the rains come in and the rain instantly starts pouring.

[00:01:33] Jessie Novak: And I know where this is going and I don’t like it one bit. My brain is saying they’re going to shut the oil lamp off too. And it’s gonna be really, really dark. And boy, was

I right!

[00:01:48] Sydney Holte: When I’m doing the thing that I’m nervous about, the feeling goes away. But this time, the feeling in my stomach did not go away.

I was still feeling

really queasy.

[00:01:59] Marc Moss: Three storytellers [00:02:00] shared their true personal story on the theme, Out of My Shell. Their stories were recorded in person in front of a live audience July 16th, 2023 at Bonner Park Band Show. The storytellers you’ll hear in this episode are all educators enrolled in the University of Montana’s Creative Pulse program, a graduate program of the University of Montana that Creative Pulse embraces critical thinking, processes, and habits of the mind, enabling the participants to develop Refine and integrate these processes into their own thinking and learning abilities as well as those of their students.

The Master of Arts in Integrated Arts and Education is completed over two consecutive summer sessions, plus independent studies and a final project. Our first story comes to us from Charlene Brett, who takes her two children and two Golden Retrievers into the backcountry for a backpacking weekend and survives a terrible overnight thunderstorm.

Charlene calls her story, A backcountry weekend adventure. Thanks for listening.[00:03:00]

[00:03:02] Charlene Brett: I’m a music teacher, and I love what I do. But… But as all teachers do, we live for summer. And I live for adventures in the summer. And this particular summer, I was talking with my oldest daughter Abby and my middle son Craig about going on a backpacking adventure. And we were going to leave my husband and my youngest son Tyler behind.

Now Abby is 15 and Craig is 12 and, and what you need to know about them is, is Abby is very independent, sort of headstrong daughter. of mine who’s like, yes, mom, let’s go. We can do this girl power and, and my son Craig is like, he likes to do that stuff, but he will always kind of step back and observe first and think about it and before he just jumps right in.

So I have two different personalities, but they’re both good. They’re like, yeah, mom, let’s plan this trip. So All week long, we’re [00:04:00] thinking about where we should go and we decide we’re going to go to Baker Lake, which is down in the southern end of Darby and sits in a circ at the base of Trapper Peak.

Trapper Peak sits at about 10, 100 feet in elevation and Baker Lake is about a thousand feet underneath that. And like I said, it sits in this cirque. So we’re like, hey, that looks cool. It’s only a mile and a half into it. And since we’re going to leave on a Friday late afternoon, that would be a good hike for us to get into and get into that lake and get set up.

I talked to my husband. He’s like, yeah, you can do this. You can do this. I’ll stay home with Tyler. All is good. You go for it. Well, all week long, on social media, and on the weather reports, they were calling for major thunderstorms that weekend. Ah, Montana weather. Montana’s bipolar. Look, it’s a blue sky, it’s beautiful right now, it’s going to be like that on this weekend too.

There’s not going to be a big thunderstorm. [00:05:00] All week long, social media. Better not do anything, there’s going to be a big storm. So we decide we’re going to wait until Friday and we’ll make that decision as to whether we should go or not. And Friday comes along, it’s the afternoon, the kids get off their job and we’re like, hey, what are we going to do?

I look outside, blue sky, not a cloud in the sky. Let’s go. So we throw our backpacks in, my little Toyota minivan, the mom van, and we hit Highway 93 and we head down to Darby and we hit the trailhead. And we start hoofing it up the switchback. It’s about a thousand foot elevation gain like in the first half mile.

And we’re huffin and puffin and we got two Golden Retriever dogs are with us, the ones that love going hiking, Bailey and Finley. And we get up to this beautiful overview and we’re looking at the valley below where we drove up the road and the sun is, you know, the sun is setting behind us and it’s casting this beautiful golden color over that valley and it’s [00:06:00] just gorgeous.

And we’re kind of looking at each other like, so glad we’re doing this, this is really cool. And for me, it was like a moment of. This weekend, this backpacking trip is a moment of, like, empowerment for myself that I can do this. I can take my kids on a backpacking trip on my own and it’s going to be okay.

Alright? So we’re providing some sort of, like, I don’t know, extra security or something that I’m proving to myself I can do this. Then we finish on the trailhead and we get to the lake. And we jump up to, or we climb up and there’s the head of the lake and it’s that first view of the lake when you finally get there.

It’s just gorgeous. It’s calm. The water is calm and the sun is setting behind all these ridges that um, circle around the lake and you can see Trapper Peak up off to the left and there’s a campsite right there that’s not taken. So we’re looking at this campsite and thinking, well, yeah, you know, it will be okay.

My dad. Always taught me to look around at the different options [00:07:00] before you choose one. It’s okay. There’s these rolling granite boulders, big boulders, because you’re up in the high country. And they’re colored, these beautiful colors coming down, it’s just gorgeous. These rolling boulders that go out to the lake that would make a perfect spot for the kids to jump off or dive off and swim in the water.

And I’m looking around and I see this one little patch of dirt. Where obviously other people have put a tent and right behind that is a really big tall dead tree a dead snake and I think Mom always said don’t put your tent under a dead tree in case a windstorm comes along We don’t have a choice if we’re going to take this campsite and those rolling boulders come right down to that and I’m thinking well if there is a thunderstorm then That rain might come down to our tent Let’s look for another spot.

Well, kind of look across the lake and you can tell that there’s this glorious campsite across the lake. It’s already [00:08:00] taken. Lucky ducks got the really cool spot. They’re set up over there and, and kind of look to the left and to the right of the lake and, and there really isn’t anything else. So this is our spot.

And it’s starting to get dark and we haven’t had dinner yet. So we set up our tent. I had a brand new tent from REI. I loved it. Little four person backpacking tent. Got the footprint to go with it. Smart. Set that baby up. It went up so easy. Made dinner, cooked some popcorn, I always pop popcorn on my backpacking trips.

Watched the fish jump in the lake, did a little swim to get all that sweat off from the hike. Watched the stars come out, it’s beautiful. When you’re up in the backcountry and you don’t have the light pollution, the stars just shine so much brighter. So we’re telling stories, pretty soon we are off to bed, it’s kind of a cold night.

No sound of rain or anything over the whole night. The morning we wake up, that sun is [00:09:00] coming into the tent. And if you sleep in a tent and you’ve ever had the sun coming in the morning, you know that feeling of warmth that comes. You’re just kind of snuggled in and just like, Oh, but I got to get up. So we finally get out of bed and we’re talking about different things that we’re going to do for the day.

Of course, I love to fly fish. I’m going to be fly fishing most of the day. My kids love to swim. And then they’re fishing a little bit too, but they’re spending more time swimming in the water and throwing sticks for the dogs and whatnot. And we’re walking around the entire lake, we’re checking out the stream at the back of the lake, we’re looking at the wildflowers.

And I’m looking at the sky again and I’m thinking, what an awesome weekend. There’s not a cloud up there. Bipolar weather in Montana, right? And during this time, this day, there had been some day backpackers that had come up to the lake. And spent some time, there were two different groups, and of course there’s this other campsite, and they’re doing fishing, and me, I’m thinking, I’m up here with my kids, but [00:10:00] there was a sense of security knowing I wasn’t the only adult up there.

So the day goes on, those day packers head out, and I’m kind of looking across the lake, and I notice that the other group of backpackers is packing up. And I’m thinking, hmm, starting to feel a little bit uncomfortable, you know, ah, we’re good. I got this. I can do this. There’s not a cloud in the sky.

Looking up at the peaks. It’s beautiful. Trapper Peaks. Amazing. I want to hike it someday. Don’t know if I can. Those backpackers head out and we have the lake to ourself. And there’s something about that, too. Like, it’s ours. We can be as loud as we want, we can do whatever we want up here. We’re not going to disturb anybody else.

So we head back over to our campsite, and we’re kind of settling in a little bit, getting ready for dinner. And the wind, just like right now, is picking up. Remember I said this lake sits in a circ at the base of Trapper Peak. [00:11:00] And that wind is coming in and it’s picking up really, really fast. And it’s starting to circle around the lake.

And I look up at the ridge tops. And the darkest, blackest clouds are just coming over the ridge in all different directions up there. And I thought, oh shit, here it comes. And it looks like it’s going to be a doozy. And when you’re up there at 9, 000 feet and you’re in a thunderstorm in the mountains and you’re all by yourself, you’re thinking, What the heck am I doing up here?

Maybe I shouldn’t have come. Maybe I should have like listened to my parents and stayed home. The thunder starts rolling and it’s echoing off all of these walls back and forth. My dogs are getting terrified. They’re like, can we go in the tent, please? We’re scared. Please let us in. So we all, we bail into the tent because the rains come in and the rain.

Instantly starts pouring. The dogs are snuggled up next to me and they’re whining, they’re looking at me like, Mom, what are we going to do? And my [00:12:00] kids are kind of terrified and we just break out in laughter because what do you do when you’re freaked out? You start laughing. And so we’re laughing at each other and I’m sitting there praying, Oh my god, I hope we make it through this storm.

I hope that dead tree behind us doesn’t fall on us. The wind is really bad. In fact, the wind becomes so bad that the tent poles are starting to cave in on us. And so the next thing you know, my brand new tent, right? I’m not going to let this windstorm mess it up. We’re playing Twister in the tent. And we’ve got arms and legs stretched out, and we’re pushing out on those tent poles, and we’re trying to hold it, and I’m trying to keep the dogs calm, and I’m looking at my kids going, it’s going to be okay, we’re going to make it.

In my head I’m thinking, what if something happens to me? Do they know how to get out of here? Are they going to know what to do? Do they know where I put the keys to the minivan? Can my daughter drive down that hill?

Plane twister, hole in the nose, and finally my daughter [00:13:00] looks down and she sees these major ripples and bubbles in the bottom of the tent. Flowing from one end to the other. And she goes, Mom, look. And I went, Oh, crap. We’re going to have wet sleeping pads. We’re going to have wet sleeping bags. We’re going to have wet clothes.

It’s going to be a cold night. What am I doing? What am I doing? And then we laugh, and we sing, we have this crazy song that we sing, it goes, Sunshine and happy days, blue skies are all around us. And it’s meant to be off pitch because it’s like supposed to break the tension, right? So we’re singing that in the tent.

My daughter zips open the tent door, and pulls it back open, and we look. And there’s a five foot wide by about two inch deep river of rainwater running underneath our tent. And out the other side. I was like, [00:14:00] crap. We’re going to be wet. We’re going to be soaked. And we laugh, I’m trying, and happy, you know, and it goes on.

The storm finally subsides, and I assess the situation. Things are dry. Close up the tent. In fact, it subsides a little bit. We get out and we’re kind of checking things out. The tree is still standing. I close up the door. We settle in for the night because we’re not going to pack out in the dark. And I just tell him, okay, if we make it to the morning, we’re going to throw everything in our backpacks.

I don’t care how it’s organized. It’s just. I always organize my backpack really well. I don’t care how it’s organized, and we’re going to get out of here. We sleep. Well, they sleep. I kind of wake up off and on. You can hear the pitter patter of the rain, and every now, thunder boomer, and rain, and thunder boomer, and then finally the morning comes, and I open up the tent door, and it’s just a drizzle, and I’m like, hey kids, let’s go, back it up, we’re getting out of here.

So we’re stuffing things in, and getting ready to hike out, and on the hike [00:15:00] out, I’m thinking, Maybe it would be wise to invest in some sort of like S. O. S. satellite telephone or Garmin device. But then I was thinking, everything was okay. We did it. We had a great adventure. I have a story to tell and I live to do it and I’m more powerful for it.

And we made it home and we told our story.

[00:15:31] Marc Moss: Thanks, Charlene. Charlene Brett is a K 5 teacher in the Bitterroot Valley in Montana and has been teaching music for 14 years. She’s a fan of the great outdoors and enjoys escaping into various high mountain lakes in both Montana and Idaho in the summer to fly fish. When not backpacking with her family or her three mom friends, moms of the traveling backpacks, You can find Charlene hiking on her property with two female golden retrievers and her tortoise shell cat, who thinks she is a dog.

On those [00:16:00] cold Montana evenings, she enjoys working thousand piece outdoor image style puzzles. Our next storyteller is Jessie Novak. Jessie is an indoor person who goes on an outdoor adventure with her sister, Stephanie, in Lewis and Clark Caverns. Jessie calls her story, Finding Joy. Thanks for listening.

[00:16:20] Jessie Novak: I’m a quadruplet. That means that my parents had Four babies, on the same day, at the same time. I know, they’re blessed. Lucky them. The first thing I get asked when people find out that I’m a quad, is your siblings must be your best friends in the world, right? They obviously don’t have siblings. I will say, my sister Steffi, who’s in front of me, is my favorite person in the world.

We are polar opposites. Two sides of the same coin. She’s taller. I’m short. She is very outdoorsy. [00:17:00] I’m an indoor girl. Step has every credential under the sun. She collects them like they’re candy. Again, I like to stay inside step and I decide that in the summer of 2022, we were going to go on the great Mid Eastern Montana Road trip.

We were going to create, or recreate, a trip that we went on when we were little. Lewis and Clark Caverns. Now, we hop in the car in August. It’s hot, it’s sunny, surprisingly not smoky. We got very lucky. But, it’s August in Montana. It’s construction season. This drive that normally takes three ish hours. I’m a passenger princess, I don’t drive.

Don’t correct me. Took [00:18:00] six hours. In the heat. Stop and go construction the whole way. For those of you who have never been to Lewis and Clark Caverns, you drive up a mountain. And you hit the lodge. That’s home base for all of the tours going through the caverns. You have to check in there. They give you a wonderful little ticket.

And they tell you, if you can’t make it up that trail in 30 minutes, you don’t get to go on your tour. Because you’re not in physical, enough physical shape to go up and down the stairs in the caverns. Well we figured, we did this when we were 6 years old. We’re 23, we’ve got this. We’re gonna go do this, and we’re gonna rock it.

Steffi is the most prepared person I’ve ever met in my life. To the extent where she’s a little bit of a hoarder. She has water, sunscreen, snacks, band aids, extra snacks. [00:19:00] I show up. With snacks. No water.

No hat. Just food.

So we’re starting to hike up this trail. You gain about a 150 feet or so in elevation in a very short time span.

It’s hot, there’s no trees, and there’s nowhere to sit down. I’m dying. This is not what I remember. This is not what I signed up for. And Steffi’s walking next to me, like this is the best day of her life. She’s having so much fun, she’s singing songs, and I’m getting passed by six year

olds. It was perfect.

We made it up to the entrance to the caverns in 29

minutes. We

got to go on our tour. That’s money saved. When they take you [00:20:00] into the caverns, it gets very cold very quickly. And when you’re like me and you’re sweating like crazy, you get freezing. I’m not prepared. I didn’t bring a jacket. I stole Steffi’s.

It was great. When you go into the caverns, the first thing you remember if you go as a child is there is a natural slide. It takes maybe 30 seconds to get down, but it is the coolest thing in the whole wide world. Especially when you’re six. When you’re 23, 24, It’s a little less exciting, unless you’re Steffi.

Then it is the coolest thing in the world, bar none. She looks at me, and she says, Jesse, we are going down this slide. I say, absolutely not. I’m an adult. I’m not prepared for this. She says, we’re going. No way in hell. [00:21:00] So Steffi goes down the slide, and I can hear her giggle the whole way down. And I can picture the look on her face of pure joy.

I’m a party pooper, I took the stairs. Yay! More stairs! When you get to the very bottom of the caverns, they tell you a story about a man who was stuck down there for three days. Without electricity, and with a teeny tiny oil lamp. Oil lamps, if you don’t know, don’t put out much light. That’s okay. It’s the 21st century.

We have electricity. So we thought, We’re getting told this story. Our tour guide’s super into it. Very dramatic. He’s acting it out. And he says, we’re gonna reenact this. I’m gonna turn out the electric lights. And use this oil lamp to light up this huge[00:22:00]

Cavern. So you know exactly what it was like to be stuck down there for three days. I’m terrified. I don’t do heights. I don’t do the dark. In the caverns, if you fall, you fall for a thousand feet. And it is dark. There is no natural light. Steffi thinks this is the best. She is nerding out. She’s doing a little happy dance over in the corner.

I’m frozen. I don’t want to move. I don’t know where I’m

going.

Power goes out. And the oil lamp lights. Puts out more light than you think it does. Which isn’t saying much. As they’re finishing the story, they’re saying three days this man was stuck down there. Three. And I know where this is going, and I don’t like it one bit.

My brain is saying, they’re going to shut the oil lamp off too, and it’s [00:23:00] going to be really, really dark. And boy was I right. He blows the oil lamp out, and I am frozen. Not

breathing, not blinking.

And in the dark, I feel Steffi’s hand grab mine. And stay there for the longest two minutes of

my life.

Our tour guide turns the electric lights back on and tells us have a wonderful day after that traumatizing experience, you’re on your own.

Be free. Go up this flight of stairs and enter the real world again. So we do. There’s nowhere to go. You can’t turn around. Steffi is doing her little happy dance. This is so cool. This is so much fun. I’m terrified still. Absolutely traumatized. Walking up these stairs trying not to touch anything, trying not to look over the edge.[00:24:00]

Steffi almost bonks her head because she’s too busy looking at me and laughing rather than watching the stairs. When you exit the caverns, there’s an airlock system so you don’t let the bats out. One door opens, you go inside a hallway, and the other door shuts. And then another door opens, And you go outside.

Steffi held my hand all the way through that door. She knew that I was terrified and shaking like a leaf the entire time. Stepping out into the sunlight was probably the most freeing moment of my life. It’s bright, it’s warm again, which I complained about earlier. Never again. And Steffi’s right there beside me.

We snap our obligatory selfie, cause I went outside and I need to prove it. And we [00:25:00] continue walking back towards our car. Steffi is not ready to go home. I’m over it. This is already not what I signed up for. And she decides, we’re going to keep going on our adventure. We’re going to go hike to the Ringing Rocks.

And now every single summer, we go on a trip. She hasn’t picked this summer yet, but she’s going to. And I know that no matter where we go, she is going to be with me, holding my hand, and it is going to be amazing. The best.

[00:25:35] Marc Moss: Thanks, Jesse. Jesse’s an art teacher, quadruplet and enthusiastic dog mom growing up outside Missoula with her three siblings and father. She realized that the only ways to control the chaos of life was living in a small town, and teaching. So, she decided to do both. She relocated to Billings, Montana, received her teaching credentials, and quickly moved to the other end of the state, to a tiny town called Noxon.[00:26:00]

In a town where everyone knows everyone, she teaches K 12 art, hikes, attempts to grow a large garden when there isn’t six feet of snow, and spoils her fur child Peggy Sue rotten. Coming up after the break.

[00:26:13] Sydney Holte: When I’m doing the thing that I’m nervous about, the feeling goes away. But this time, the feeling in my stomach did not go away.

I was still feeling really queasy.

[00:26:24] Marc Moss: Stay with us. Do you have your tickets for the next Tell Us Something live storytelling event? You can get your tickets online at tellusomething. org. Better yet though, why not pick up some limited edition printed tickets? These tickets are the same price as the online tickets and feature the beautiful artwork used on the posters.

Artwork for the Lost in Translation event was created by Bear River Studios. These special tickets are available exclusively at Rockin Rooties. Get your tickets now at Rockin Rooties or get the digital version at tellussomething. org. Alright, back to the stories. [00:27:00] Closing out this episode of the Tell Us Something podcast is Sidney Holt.

Sidney lands a student teaching gig in India and an unfamiliar green sauce causes her great gastrointestinal distress on her first day of student teaching. Sydney calls her story, green sauce. Thanks for listening.

[00:27:21] Sydney Holte: I’ve always loved to travel. I love being in uncomfortable moments when I’m traveling out of my element. And a big part of loving traveling is I love to try new foods. I love to try foods that I’ve had before, maybe with a different spice or cooked in a different way. But I also just love trying new foods in general.

That’s a big part of why I love to travel. I was 21 and I was trying to decide where I was going to do my student teaching. And I was presented with an amazing opportunity to do my student teaching in India. And of course, being the person [00:28:00] that I am, I said yes, and I got on a plane in February to fly to India for four months, and I land in New Delhi.

It’s in the middle of the night, midnight 1:00 AM somewhere in there. And. I’m overwhelmed in the best of ways. I step out of the airport and instantly I smell incense. But I can also smell a lot of garbage. And I can also smell street food with spices that aren’t my normal spices, like turmeric. And I can also smell a lot of urine.

So, it was an overwhelming amount of smells in the best of ways. I could… Here, in the middle of the night, the mosques and bells going off, I could hear people chanting prayers over what seemed like a giant megaphone. And they did not tell me how the traffic would be in India. There are these roundabouts in [00:29:00] New Delhi that have like six or seven lanes, and there’s lines on the ground like there are here.

They’re just suggestions for where to drive.

So, people would go in these roundabouts and hit each other like real life bumper cars. And, uh, they would just continue on. Uh, so, it was overwhelming in the best of ways. I was in New Delhi for about three days, and then I traveled to where I was going to be doing my student teaching.

I had to travel about seven hours

on a train north of New Delhi, and then it was like a switchback up this mountain in a taxi. And… I’m, I’ve always been a little prone to getting car sick, so this, I, I had to tell the taxi driver several times to slow down, please. Um, so we get there, and it’s this, on top of this gorgeous mountain, it’s in the Himalayas, it’s these beautiful, [00:30:00] huge trees like this, and I met by my mentor that’s going to show me around campus.

And she shows me around campus and shows me where I’ll be living for the next four months. And the houses that the employees stayed in were anywhere from really close to campus to Three quarters of a mile away. My house that I was going to be staying in was about a half mile from campus. So half mile walk in and half mile walk after school.

And I had been at Woodstock International Boarding School for about two or three weeks and I was starting to get to know people a little bit, and I was invited to a party. I was like, great, I’m starting to get to know people, I’m feeling pretty good about it. And so I go to this party, and there’s food, and drinks, and there’s a new food that I have not tried before.

It’s fried, but it’s not pakora, I had tried pakora, [00:31:00] and there was… This green sauce next to it. So I try one, and I don’t know how I like it yet. It’s not, it doesn’t taste like cilantro. It doesn’t really taste like parsley. It has some different flair to it. So I try another one, and I try another one. I’m still not convinced if I like it or not.

So about four or five I tried, and then I finally decide that I don’t like it. And my stomach is feeling a little upset from eating it. And I don’t, I don’t really think much about it. I carry on. The next morning was a big day for me because I was going to be teaching my first lesson without any help from my cooperating teacher.

So I wake up and I’m feeling really queasy. I’m feeling really nauseous, really anxious about. Teaching this lesson, but I think, okay, I’m feeling queasy. It must just be because I’m anxious. So I continue getting ready. I start my half mile [00:32:00] walk into campus and I’m gradually feeling more and more. Yucky. My stomach really doesn’t feel good.

And I get up to the classroom and I’m doing a lesson with 7th and 8th graders on xylophones, and I start teaching, and you, normally, for me at least, when I’m doing the thing that I’m nervous about, I, The feeling goes away, but this time the feeling in my stomach did not go away. I was still feeling really queasy, and I get this urge to sneeze.

Oh shit, I just shit my pants.

And I shit them big. Poop is

running down my legs. And I was wearing tight pants that day, thankfully, and they were black, but I am…

Clenching my butt cheeks so that my poop doesn’t run onto the floor as [00:33:00] I’m teaching 7th and 8th graders. And I

don’t want to excuse myself

to go to the bathroom because I don’t want my cooperating teacher to think that I don’t care about teaching this lesson.

So as I’m going around helping these kids on xylophones, I’m just squeezing my butt tighter and tighter so that my poop doesn’t… End up on the floor.

I finished the lesson, and waddled my way back to my house,

and changed my pants, and all is well. But thinking back to this experience, I can’t help but think, if I can teach my very first lesson with poop running down my legs, then I can probably teach in most situations.

[00:33:56] Marc Moss: Thanks, Sydney. Sidney Holt was born and raised in [00:34:00] Minnesota and now teaches elementary music in Billings, Montana. She enjoys camping and fly fishing whenever she can with her husband, Jacoby. Singing and musical theater have always been a large part of her life, too. She loves canned goods, peeing in lakes, and drinking coffee before the sun rises.

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Learn more at float msla. com and thanks to the team at Missoula events. net. Learn about all of the goings on in Missoula at Missoula events. net. Next week in the podcast, I catch up with local author, Rick White. Just way back there

[00:35:39] Rick White: in the heart of the subway, Bitterroot National Forest. So, yeah, we were at the end of the road and, um, off grid

for, for three weeks.

And it looked like me scribbling furiously and, uh, on a yellow legal pad and then transcribing onto a, uh, a hundred dollar typewriter that I’ve sent at the [00:36:00] antique mall beforehand so that I could… Translated into print.

[00:36:04] Marc Moss: Rick and I chat about the story that he told live on stage at the Wilma in Missoula, Montana in December, 2019.

[00:36:11] Rick White: So I had a few letters behind my name. Those letters and what they signify to

what I had earned or what I thought I had earned

mattered less to my students than did the name preceding them, which was not so shield.

[00:36:25] Marc Moss: The theme that night was tipping point. We also talk about podcasting, writing his artist residency. And storytelling. Tune in for his interview and listen to his story. On the next, tell us something. Podcast. Thanks to Cash For Junkers who provided the music for the podcast, find them at cash for junkers band.com. To learn more about, tell us something, please visit tell us something.org.

This week on the podcast, Dagny Deutchman and I revisit the story that she shared about guiding a river trip on the Salmon River. In the story, she shared how she dealt with a client who inappropriately expressed his displeasure at having to use a groover. We talk about how she might handle that differently. Dagney shares how Tell Us Something changed her life and we talk about some of the sleep research she’s been doing as she pursues her PhD.
In this podcast episode, you’ll hear stories about an unpleasant ear discovery in the middle of the night, an unlikely savior as our storyteller falls out of a tree, and the very first open adoption in the state of Montana.

Transcript : "Tipping Point" Part 1

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welcome to tell us something
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annabelle winnie who moved to montana
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nine years ago
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in part because allegedly she only lives
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in states
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that start with the letter m
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previously she lived in maine
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massachusetts
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and new mexico she currently works as a
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clinical social worker in private
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practice
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past jobs have included research
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biologist
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waitress and burrito roller please
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welcome
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annabel winnie
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thank you okay
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last august i was blissfully asleep
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when i became aware of something
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happening in my left
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ear i rolled over
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put my left ear down on the pillow and
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waited for the water to drain out of my
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ear
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when i was growing up i spent a lot of
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time in pools and the ocean and lakes
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and i was always getting water in my ear
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i sat up in bed when i realized that i
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didn’t go to the river that day
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and i don’t even think i took a shower
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before i went to bed
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and the sensation in my ear was
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increasingly becoming
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more agitating it was like i was a deep
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sea
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diver coming up from the bottom of the
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ocean
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as i became more and more awake and
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realized that something really weird was
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happening in my left ear
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i sat up and tried to shake it out
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i’m a very logical person and when the
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sensations in my ear
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didn’t match what i expected to happen
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i got really agitated i shook again
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i expected there to be water in my ear
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and i thought it should
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slosh up on the left side
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but that didn’t happen it was
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unpredictable and chaotic
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and it burned a little bit and it was
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really starting to freak me out
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i wondered if maybe climate chaos was
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affecting my left ear what if my brain
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was melting and i might actually be
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dying
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and then it occurred to me i was alone
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my family was away even the dog was gone
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for the first time in almost 20 years i
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was having a crisis in the middle of the
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night and i was by myself
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it flashed in my mind in my pajamas with
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this insane chaos in my ear
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i could get in my car and drive to the
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emergency room no
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i’m not gonna do that i got up walked
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out of the bedroom to figure it out
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but before i can tell you that story
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i need to tell you this story
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why did i do that i could have called an
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ambulance i could have called 9-1-1
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in moments like this when our field of
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depth is so
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thin we have our animal instincts
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and we have those paths already laid
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down in our brain
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really i think i did what i did because
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i’m from boston
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yeah i’m from new england i’m a mass
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hole oh yeah
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oh yeah and you know we’re tough
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you know
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oh yeah that’s what i’m talking about
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right we take care of
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right because when i learned how to
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drive
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i learned how to drive in a city where
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the pedestrians not only thought
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they owned the sidewalk but also the
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street
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so i’m driving a stick shift the road’s
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probably icy and somebody’s going to
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step out in front of my car in any
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moment
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i am tough man you know the few times i
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skied really i could have just brought
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my ice skates
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i could have gone to the top of the ski
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hill laced them up and just skated down
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the hill
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because that was so icy you know
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what you call snow out here
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that’s styrofoam oh yeah
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this at home right that’s like
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cheesecake
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because the ocean’s right there it’s
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really dense right so when i was a kid
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we get a big dump of snow
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it’s like your car ensconced in two feet
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of cheesecake
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right by the time you shovel that
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off your car
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and you clear out the spot that is
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yours
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you own it for the whole winter
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oh yeah god forbid you actually have to
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get in your car and drive somewhere
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it’s the land of the law you can put a
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trash can
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or a lawn chair in your spot it’s yours
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i mean why else does anybody own a lawn
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chair
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right hey jimmy
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you better go down to the hardware store
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and get me a lawn chair winner’s coming
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they’re going to sell out right
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yeah my neighbor man when i grew up
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one day i saw her somebody took a spot
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she left the can there they moved it
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they took her spot
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oh she was so pissed when she got back i
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watched her
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she when that guy came to move his car
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she stood out on the porch
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she gave him the evil eye and then she
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told him exactly what she
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thought of him right to his face
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right because that’s what happens in
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boston people will tell you to your
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face that they don’t like you
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i’m not going to get in my car and drive
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myself to the emergency room
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no way the thing is though
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we’re really more like m ms you know we
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got this hard exterior
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but inside it’s all soft chocolate
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right so i’m gonna take care of this
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on my own
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but inside i am a mess i am so
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panicked
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i leave my room and i need my phone
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right because it’s got my flashlight so
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i get my phone go in the bathroom turn
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on the light
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flashlight nothing it’s just an ear i’m
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freaking out
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i’m really freaking out and it’s kind of
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starting to hurt i take a picture
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i expect to see blood or maybe like an
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alien tentacle it’s nothing it’s just my
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ear
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oddly i get this strange picture like
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it’s like the scream what am i going to
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do jesus christ what’s going on
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i got a little basket i got earplug i
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don’t have earplugs i have nail clippers
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and i have
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tweezers and i start to go from my ear
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thank god
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for sanity no tweezers in eardrums not a
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good idea what am i going to do what am
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i going to do
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and then i see the bottle thank god my
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kids
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had lice
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thank god it was august because every
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august
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my kids get lice right
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so there’s this bottle of rubbing
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alcohol on the counter because my kids
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have lice
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why because it makes me feel better
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rubbing alcohol does nothing for lice
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nothing
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it doesn’t stop them for a
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second
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so i got my paper towel but it makes me
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feel better i got my paper towel i put
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the rubbing alcohol and i
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comb my kid’s hair for over and
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then i clean it off
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on the rubbing alcohol makes me feel
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better and in my head i’m still like
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water pool
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water pool because i’m very logical
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so when i was a child i always had my
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little bottle half rubbing alcohol
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half vinegar i put it in my ear and the
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pool water would come out
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right so i like get a cotton ball and
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i’m squeezing then i just got the whole
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goddamn bottle like
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what the and i’m show i’m
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shaking my head
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oh my god it stops this insanity
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in my ear it
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stops i’m not gonna die
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my children won’t be motherless
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oh jesus christ i look in the sink and
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it’s like crawling around it’s got like
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a little
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segmented body parts and it’s like
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brown and reddish and it’s got these
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pinchers on its head
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it’s an
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for christ’s sake so what do i do
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booyah i kill it with my thumb
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i smush it it’s dead
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oh my god i do find some earplugs i’m
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not playing
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i get some cheap dime store earplugs and
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you know like three hours later i fall
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back asleep
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it took that long
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a couple weeks later early september i
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go to two back-to-back shows
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right here at the wilma so fun but you
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know
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i’m middle aged so i have my expensive
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earplugs in my expensive rock concert
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ear plugs in
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so i go i have fun the day after the
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second show
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i take my earplugs out and i got a
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little buzz in my ear you know that
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happens whatever
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a couple weeks later it’s still there
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that’s kind of weird a month later
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it’s still there and i’m like what is
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going on and then it occurs to me
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it’s that earwig
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he up my ear damn
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what am i gonna do i could go to a
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specialist i could pay a lot of money
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he’d look in my ear and say
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yeah you had an earwig in your ear
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your hearing’s damaged you know what let
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that go
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so i do i keep going it’s only recently
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that i even
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thought to stop and listen
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it’s still there i have a little funk in
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my left ear
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because i had an earwig in it but i got
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it out
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and now if you ever wake up in the
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middle of the night
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and you think you’re going crazy
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you will know just what to do
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thank you
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thank you annabelle susan you’ll
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appreciate this
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um susan told me stop reading so much
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so i tried not to and i forgot to say
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something that would have made
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annabelle’s story
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better for you tell us something has
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adult themes in adult language
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forgot to say that earlier
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sorry
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feather sherman took art classes since
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she was six years old
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at maryland institute of art then
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eventually for two years at schuler
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school of fine art
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she earned her bachelor’s of science in
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art education from towson university in
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maryland
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and a masters of arts in fine arts from
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the university of montana
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she is passionate about peace art
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music rainbow gatherings her five
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awesome kids and her grandbaby ryden
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blue
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please welcome feather sherman
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yes
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from my vantage point just below the
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crown of a good-sized ponderosa
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on the wild side of the clearwater river
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i looked out as beautiful dawn
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amber dawn gradually lit the sky
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and the landscape below it was
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so beautiful
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i thank great spirit
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the life-giving force of the universe
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for the miracle
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of this new day i took a deep breath
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butterscotch
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and then my son was had gotten up and he
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was starting to fix breakfast
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so i started climbing down the tree to
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help him
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and when i got about 20 feet above the
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ground
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i paused ah
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that first cup of coffee is going to
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taste so good
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just then an unknown force
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kicked my left foot off the branch it
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was on as hard as you kick a football
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and it kicked my right it jerked my
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right foot off and suddenly
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i was hanging by my hands
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20 feet above the ground in midair
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i was wearing my work gloves that had no
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buttons on them
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and they were beginning to slip
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well i knew i’d have to think of
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something pretty quick so
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i decided uh i’m strongest on my right
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side so i’m gonna
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hang on with my right hand and then i’ll
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let go with my
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left and i’ll wrap my arm around the
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tree and then my other arm
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and then i’ll shimmy down till i get on
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some good limbs down below
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i thought yeah that’s the best that’s
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the best plan
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so i said okay here it goes and
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i let go with my left hand and as i went
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to wrap
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my arm around the tree my body swung out
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just far enough i could just graze the
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side of the tree
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i could not grab the trunk
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and i realized that i was going down
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in a matter of seconds
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my right arm my right hand slipped
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and i began to fall i thought
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wow 110 pounds falling 20 feet
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i’m going to be going really fast when i
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hit the ground
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but i’m not going to know how i can lan
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how how to land
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until uh i discover if i’m going to get
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knocked around by the limbs so
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uh i’ll just count 1 1 000
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to 1 000. okay i’m
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almost to the ground now how am i going
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to land
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let’s see um i don’t want to land on my
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left side because i might burst my heart
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so i’m going to roll to my right a
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little bit and
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i’m going to want something to get
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around on so i’m going to put my foot up
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and uh something’s gonna have to hit
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first i guess it’ll be the other one
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and i’m gonna tuck up a little bit i’m
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like okay
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this is the best position and then a
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millisecond above the ground i went oh
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in this position i’m gonna break my
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neck
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but there’s nothing i can do
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i’ll just have to do my best because
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here’s the ground
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and i hit my body landed on the top of
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the ground
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i felt absolutely no pain but all the
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rest of me kept going in the same
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trajectory
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down down down i flew
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into the earth and eventually it was
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like being on a trampoline and my speed
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slowed
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and then i hit bottom and then boom
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i was back up in my body and
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then i felt the pain i’d broken my foot
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and my back and actually several other
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parts but those were the main injuries
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and i was laying there and i thought
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this is a miracle i didn’t break my neck
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this is the absolute miracle and then
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i saw sparkles of silver and gold in the
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air
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and i felt this spiritual being behind
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me
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supporting my head neck and shoulders
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i felt like a baby eagle tucked in the
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breast of my mother eagle
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so safe and warm and then
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the spiritual being very gently laid my
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head on the ground
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and i’d landed on dirt and bunch grass
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no rocks
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just then my son came running over the
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tree and he says mom
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are you okay and i said yes i’m alive
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and i didn’t break my neck i’m great
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look i can wield all this and he’s like
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wow i said well we’re gonna have to call
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the helicopter
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and uh i did break my back i know that
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for sure
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so pretty soon they made it pretty quick
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in about half an hour
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and as the emts came running over the
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tree
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one of them looks over and he goes hey
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we thought we’d find a 10 year old kid
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under this tree not a 50 year old woman
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i said thanks a lot you guys i’m 64.
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and i’m i’m not in shock and my vitals
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are normal
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and they said wow that’s great how is
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your head and neck
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and i said they’re fine look and i
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wiggled all over again to show them
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and they said well we’re going to bundle
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you up and take you into the hospital
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so then we got to st pat’s hospital and
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they
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did a beautiful job stabilizing my leg
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and
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getting me ready to have a clamshell
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brace and
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about three days later the doctor came
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into the
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to my room and he says where are you
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living right now
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and i said well uh temporarily i’m in a
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friend’s basement
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17 steps down and
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in actuality i was going through a very
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difficult time in my life
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and going through a very hard breakup
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with my husband of 16 years
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so that’s why i was down in the basement
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and
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and he says well you know you have a
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broken back
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you can’t use crutches you can’t you
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can’t go there
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and i said oh my friends will carry me
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up and down and he’s like
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no uh you’re gonna have to find another
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place to stay
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or we’re gonna put you in a nursing home
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and i’m like oh please not that
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so i called everybody i could think of
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and
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no one had room for me anywhere and
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i fell asleep and when i woke up i felt
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like i was in the bottom of this
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deep dry well and i was all alone and
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there was no light and no
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sound and i had never felt so alone
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and so helpless before in my whole life
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but then i cheered up a little bit and i
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said okay feather what do you need now
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and i said i gotta talk to somebody who
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understands what i’m going through
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so i thought oh i’ll call david milgram
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up in flagstaff
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he’s a wonderful healer and we worked
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together with grandfather david menonge
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of the hopies for 10 years during the
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80s
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so i called up david and let him know
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what had happened and he goes
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oh feather you really did it this time
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but here’s the good news you’re going to
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recover completely
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and i’ll help you i’m going to help you
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with vitamins and minerals
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and when we get off the phone i want you
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to call this number it belongs
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to a very powerful lakota medicine woman
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named susan and she works behind the
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scenes
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she lives in colorado so give her a call
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and so i did i thanked david very much
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and i called susan up on the phone
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and i explained to her that i was a
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friend of davids and what had happened
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and she goes oh wonderful
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wonderful she goes i see you
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you’re way up in the air and surrounded
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by fire
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well i was on the fourth floor st pat’s
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hospital looking down at the helicopter
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pad
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and seven and a half years ago we were
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having a really bad fire season with
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idaho on fire in southern montana
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and the valley was full of smoke so
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i knew she saw me and then she said
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i’m doing a ceremony for you right now
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and you’re in the center
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i’m calling in the four thunder beings
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of the west because they’re the most
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powerful protectorate spirits
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and then seven male warrior spirits and
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seven
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female warrior spirits are around you
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right now
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and they’re going to protect you and
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help you to heal
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and i want you to give a spirit offering
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for them before you have your food and i
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said yes i’ll be happy to do that i’ve
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been taught that
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by black elk’s great-grandson
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and then she says feel free to call me
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anytime
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and just before she hung out the phone
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she goes oh by the way
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do you know who saved your life and i
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said
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i have a hunch and she goes you’re right
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it was your father and he’s here with me
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right now
22:27
and he’s laughing and he is so
22:31
happy that he was able to help and he’s
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calling you gidget gidget
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i completely forgot that when i was a
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little girl
22:42
my dad called me gidget because i loved
22:44
the gidget goes hawaiian
22:46
and kitchen goes to summer camp movies
22:49
and i thanked her so much and hung up
22:51
the phone and then
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my dad’s spirit came right into the
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hospital room
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and i raised up and we hugged each other
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in a beautiful golden ball
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of light and love and i was able to
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thank him with
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all my heart
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thanks feather
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how we all doing yeah
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greg monroe of missoula is the father of
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two adopted daughters who are now adults
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with children of their own
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in a long career as a trial lawyer
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lawyer
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including 30 years as a law professor at
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the university of montana
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he has made storytelling the core of his
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advocacy
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and is awed by this ancient and
24:02
beautiful communication
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please welcome greg monroe
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1983 was a time of great anxiety for
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me and my wife we couldn’t get pregnant
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we had tried everything she had told me
24:28
a couple years earlier that her clock
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was running and
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if we wanted to have children we had to
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get at it
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and the months were tough
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we were making love according to formula
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it was governed by
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temperatures and the time of the month
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each month was started with hope and
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ended in despair
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ultimately our doctors said why don’t
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you consider adopting
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so we went to the oldest adoption agency
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of the oldest of the five institutional
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adoption agencies in montana
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in helena chodera that was part of
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chodera children’s hospital
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and started with them we met a wonderful
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social worker there named becky jones
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and we knew what to expect we’d seen the
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movies and heard the stories and we knew
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that
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in infant adoptions through uh
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institutional adoption agencies were
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totally secret
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the mother gave up her child to the
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agency the agency picked the parents
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place the baby and she would never know
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what happened to the child
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and the child as the child grew up would
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never know what happened or who
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where she came from or who her natural
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parents were
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some of the agencies at that time were
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helping adult children
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find their birth parents if the birth
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parents consented
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so becky took us through a
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course in adoption and to prepare us and
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then
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and confirmed that this was all to be
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completely secret
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and then told us that okay you’re
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expecting
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i got the call in the middle of the
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afternoon in january
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from becky she said your baby’s here
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i was ecstatic and then she said
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something ominous she said
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but there’s problems i thought oh my god
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is the baby blind does she have a cleft
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palate
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uh are there legal problems
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and becky went on and told me what had
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occurred
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they had gone to she and the doctor i
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think went to
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corey’s room cory was the birth mother
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she was 15 years old
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and becky said to this 15 year old
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you were released you’re discharged you
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can go back to the florence crittenden
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home
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now the florence crittenden home was a
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home for unwed mothers
26:54
in helena and that’s a place where
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when a young woman or a girl
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was starting to show that she was
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pregnant could go there
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and stay for months and then have her
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baby and then go back to school
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and make up a story about where she’d
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been
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so becky said you can go back to the
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florence kitten home then back to your
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hometown
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and corey said and you’re going to place
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the baby today right
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and she said no we’re not going to do
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that and she said well when will you
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place her and she said well two or three
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weeks from now
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and corey said what and she said with
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two or three weeks from now
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and corey said no no you gotta place her
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today and she said no we don’t do that
27:36
the agencies keep the baby for two or
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three weeks
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where will you keep the baby well in a
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crib here or
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we’ll put her in foster care for two or
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three weeks why would you do that
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well it’s a cooling off period in case
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you change your mind
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i’m not going to change my mind look
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you’ve got to place this baby with a
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mother today
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and if you don’t i’m going to take her
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out here and parent her myself and i
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don’t want to do that
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becky said corey there’s something i
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haven’t told you my mother died in north
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dakota today
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and my father is elderly and needs me
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how about if i go to north dakota and i
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take care of things with the family
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and take care of him and i’ll come back
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next week and we’ll place the baby
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no you have to place the baby right now
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it’s got to be placed today
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and she was in a jam becky was
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she said listen i’m going to have to go
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talk to others in the adoption agency
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here we’ll decide what to do we’ve never
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been faced with this before
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and corey said yes do that and while
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you’re at it
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i want to meet the parents i want to see
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this baby
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into the parent’s arms and
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and i want it today and she said becky
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said
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we don’t do that no adoption agency does
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that
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you can’t meet the parents and she said
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listen i’m going to take the baby out of
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here.
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so the agency had no choice she met with
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them and they decided
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they’d never been faced with this before
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and
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they decided that the only thing to do
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was call us
29:11
so on the phone becky had two questions
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of me one
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can you come to helena right now and get
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your baby
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and two will you meet the birth mother
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instantly i said you bet we’ll do both
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and you to talk to my wife
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and i hung the phone up called frontier
29:30
airlines
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and as luck would have it they had a
29:32
flight leaving immediately
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i picked the phone up to call my wife
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and all the power and central billings
29:38
went out
29:39
and i couldn’t call her on our set so i
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jumped in the car raced to her office
29:43
she was a cpa clear across town
29:46
ran in and said our baby’s here
29:50
and we we hugged we tried and uh
29:54
they were raised up to the hospital and
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saint vincent hospital gave or
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lent babies infant seats to
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parents who were taking children out of
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the hospital because that was back in
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the days when people still drove around
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in cars
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carrying babies in their arms
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so we flew to helena and we met uh
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we went to the restaurant we’d agreed to
30:17
meet up near the airport
30:19
and becky was there and the
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little girl corey was there cory was
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carrying a
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stuffed panda bear and in his arms
30:30
with a with a baby stuffed panda bear
30:35
and she and she handed it to us
30:38
and said this is for your baby
30:41
and we had a wonderful dinner i don’t
30:44
know how i got to dinner as you might
30:46
yes i’m very emotional
30:50
but corey was very engaging
30:53
self-confident we loved her it was
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really great
30:55
and we had a very good time with her and
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we uh
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and the funny thing we asked her about
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her interest and she said
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i love riding horses and we said
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well do you have a horse of your own she
31:06
said no i go to fairmont all the time so
31:08
we knew she was from anaconda
31:10
and so we agreed
31:14
to go where the baby was and take
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pictures all together
31:17
and then we take her back to the
31:18
florence crittenden home which we did it
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was really fun taking pictures
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we went back to the floor and
31:23
straightened them home had left
31:26
corey went into the home and you can
31:28
imagine what you had to say
31:30
and the word spread like wildfire what
31:33
this 15 year old had done
31:37
skipping ahead we there were there were
31:39
legal problems as a matter of fact
31:41
corey had exercised her right of privacy
31:44
and refused to identify the father
31:46
frankly she told a story that was pretty
31:48
bogus
31:50
and so
31:54
about a year less than a year
31:58
after these events
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corey wrote a letter to the agency to
32:03
becky
32:04
and penciled out this letter saying i
32:07
was just wondering
32:10
i need to see the baby and the parents
32:12
one more time to make sure
32:16
that she’s safe and secure so
32:20
and she said i know this might not be
32:22
possible and it’s okay if it isn’t
32:25
but if we can i’d really like to do it
32:27
around her first birthday
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and she signed it and then across the
32:30
bottom of the letter she wrote
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big letters please
32:37
and i said to the agency how would we
32:40
ever say no to that
32:42
so we drove to helena on a saturday
32:45
and we had all agreed to meet at show
32:47
there and we drove up to the curb and
32:49
there was only one car parked there
32:51
and that was from anaconda of course and
32:53
we went in and we met corey she looked
32:55
wonderful
32:56
and she was just great and she had
33:00
a boyfriend with her and he was blonde
33:04
he had a broad nose just like the
33:06
adorable nose my daughter had
33:09
and frankly i took one look at him and
33:11
thought this is the father of this baby
33:14
we had a wonderful meeting with him and
33:17
i suspected that we might hear more from
33:19
corey and by the way
33:21
we were advised before dinner and before
33:24
this meeting
33:26
that we wouldn’t identify use no last
33:28
names and would not talk about where we
33:30
were from
33:31
and because we had to maintain the
33:33
secrecy
33:36
so on that saturday
33:39
we met took pictures and all that and
33:42
then we did something
33:43
that was not scripted and i don’t know
33:47
to this day how
33:48
the agency felt about it but we agreed
33:51
with corey that we wouldn’t get together
33:54
again
33:55
and have no contact until andrea was old
33:58
enough
33:59
to ask questions and that the day that
34:01
she asked to meet her birth mother we’d
34:03
get back in touch with the agency we get
34:05
together
34:06
and that’s exactly what happened and i
34:07
think it was when andrew was about five
34:09
and a half years old
34:10
and we got together with her and both of
34:13
our daughters
34:14
had grown up knowing their birth mothers
34:17
and having
34:18
whatever contact they wanted to have
34:19
with them and
34:21
uh the word spread so fast
34:25
that all of the agencies were forced to
34:28
change
34:30
and today in montana adoption within
34:33
just a couple of years
34:34
it became policy that if you wouldn’t
34:36
meet the birth parents you went to the
34:38
bottom of the priority pile
34:39
or you didn’t get a baby at all and i
34:42
think that we’ve all learned
34:44
in the meantime that it is so much more
34:47
human
34:48
to have open adoptions and for all the
34:50
ups and downs it’s better to see the
34:52
road map
34:53
and better for children’s identity thank
35:00
you
35:17
thank you john
35:21
thank you to all of our storytellers so
35:22
far tonight
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language interpreters as well bonnie
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36:28
the theme is lost and found we are to
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36:45
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come back in 10 minutes for audience
36:49
participation thank you so much
36:58
welcome back
37:04
i would like to introduce you to my two
37:06
friends
37:08
lauren and ryder who are going to walk
37:09
us through the audience participation
37:11
portion of the evening
37:13
does one of you want to step over here
37:14
so i can get the mic
37:17
down right
37:20
got it angle you
37:24
all right so this is the first audience
37:26
participation story
37:29
tipping point or tipping over i woke up
37:31
in shivers after a night of drinking
37:33
tequila and eating masculine
37:36
i shook off a layer of frost and found
37:38
that i was chained to my motorcycle
37:40
what the i walked to the bar and
37:43
grill in
37:43
alberton and ordered breakfast the guy
37:46
behind the bar slid
37:47
slid my coffee down the bar soon
37:49
followed by eggs and bacon
37:53
how rude i thought i tossed in my money
37:56
and walked out
37:57
the ride home was freezing so when i got
37:59
home i curled up in bed until late
38:00
afternoon
38:02
upon rising i went to the bathroom after
38:04
peeing
38:05
i looked in the mirror it was shocked to
38:06
see that i had burrito puke in my bushy
38:08
beard
38:10
i no longer drink tequila
38:18
one day my husband said to me if you
38:20
can’t be passionate about me
38:22
and this life then you should leave
38:25
today
38:26
that was 20 years ago and i’ve never
38:28
seen him since
38:38
all right it was mid-august i was in a
38:40
large faded orange
38:42
orange colored raft from the 1970s named
38:44
marge
38:45
about to voyage down tumbleweed a rapid
38:48
in the alberton gorge
38:49
i forgot to mention it was my first time
38:51
rowing ever
38:53
i will let the pictures say the rest
38:59
i spent three years living in
39:00
minneapolis where it’s so cold in the
39:02
winter it hurts your face
39:04
my commute to work was about 45 minutes
39:07
in start and stop traffic
39:09
it was my third winter there and i was
39:11
driving home in the freezing snow
39:13
i called my boyfriend and told him i had
39:15
to make a change
39:16
i couldn’t do another winter there he
39:18
was on board we made a list of cities we
39:20
would want to move to
39:22
and started applying for jobs we both
39:24
got jobs in missoula within a week of
39:26
each other
39:27
having have lived here together for the
39:29
past two years and we’re getting married
39:31
here this summer
39:39
well i’m not comfortable sharing this
39:41
story on social media i do think it’s a
39:43
story that needs to be told
39:48
as a wayward but well-intentioned 17
39:50
year old i brought my girlfriend
39:52
now wife of 41 years home a half hour
39:55
later than
39:56
her curfew her father put her luggage on
39:58
the front porch
40:00
even i an obtuse rider of the
40:02
testosterone tsunami
40:04
figured out the message instead of
40:06
slinking however my wife and i went
40:08
in woke up my new in-laws and had it out
40:11
with
40:12
uh headed out with them regarding my
40:13
intentions
40:16
this month our nine and five-year-old
40:18
granddaughters will
40:20
join us at my father-in-law’s house for
40:22
christmas and i am attending tonight’s
40:24
tell us something with my daughter who
40:25
remains a golden light of my life
40:28
thanks
40:35
it was the eve of my birthday as i
40:38
tipped into my 30s i found myself
40:40
14 000 feet in the air strapped to a
40:43
heavily tattooed stranger
40:46
it was then that i realized that i had
40:48
passed the point of no return
40:50
this was my tipping point
41:01
seems more like a tip than a story but
41:04
moving the decimal one place to the left
41:06
that’s ten percent
41:08
double it for nice gratuity that’s my
41:10
tipping point
41:27
november 8 2016.
41:43
in high school my daughter used to put
41:44
her clothes in the dryer to warm her
41:46
clothes up
41:47
every morning i finally snapped and
41:49
started turning off the dryer breaker
41:57
i had forty dollars in my pocket and i
41:59
had not yet made my destination
42:01
having traveled from missoula to zurich
42:04
switzerland
42:05
it was 10 pm i was 19 and still had
42:08
miles to go
42:10
would i make it where would i sleep
42:20
when i had nothing more i could give you
42:22
and you couldn’t even give me the time
42:24
that was my tipping point
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thanks guys
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do
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you

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